Rather than make disparaging comment on others' beliefs or religions, it may be better to look at it this way:
For the last 2,500 years or so, in western society we have been taught to think from a logical standpoint. ';If A+B=C, then it follows that to remove B from C we will be left with A (C-B=A)';. Although that seems so simple to us now, logic was not always an understood device. Though some people thought logically no one really knew how to teach another the principles of logical thinking (reason).
Due to this, such things as Hammurabi's Code, the Code of Ur-Namuu and others were written to take the guess work out of it so that individuals in societies could play nice with one another by simply following a rule without having to know why the rules existed. It would be like memorizing the multiplication tables without understanding the concept of HOW to multiply. You can only solve the problems you have memorized, i.e., since you did not memorize that 4x4=16, you would not know to simply add 4+4+4+4 to get 16.
Back then it was safer for a ruler or the ';powers that be'; to lay down universal laws rather than try to let the people decide when to a principle applies and when it does not.
The introduction of the principles of logic in the western world allowed for a new way to approach laws, both in making them and adhering to them. It is not an accident that the New Testament, which was written after the development of philosophy and the principles of logic approached the law from a different perspective. It was understood by then that the way to behave with one another could be derived from adhering to a few principles rather than an extensive set of immutable laws.
This is the same reason why, today, the U.S. and other constitutional bodies allow laws to be implemented, altered, or removed from the books. They are based on whether they can be shown to be supportive of the few basic principles laid down in the constitutions (at least in concept).
Thus the difference. Today: many specific but changeable laws based on a few universal unchanging principles. Then, no specific principles, but many universal unchangeable laws.
So, if lack of submission to authority can possibly weaken the rulers, then rid yourself of all disobedient people. If some homosexual acts could be used to worship of another god, outlaw all of them (no society tolerated freedom of religion back then). You get the idea.Why does the bible tell people to kill disobedient teenagers, gays, and people who work on Sunday?
The reason this is stated in the Bible is because it was part of the old covenant made by God and the Israelis. When Jesus came, the old covenant was abolished and a new covenant was made to the world (John 3:16) Homosexuality is still immoral (see the New Testament for details)
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well for 1 it was what is known as a ';governmental law'; which means that it was a law God made for ancient Israel. so we do not do those things because its not a law in where we live.
also it wasn't a vigilante style thing like you assume. they would have to go to a court which would need at least 2 witnesses (not including friends or enemies) to testify against the person, and if those witnesses were found to be truthful then the person would be sentenced to death. in fact cross examination of the witnesses were so strict that it got to the point where if a court condemned more than 1 person to die in the course of 7 years the court was considered murderous.
Yes it does seem quiet hypocritical.
But the bible is for general lessons not fact.
The world didn't flood and Noah take two of every animal on a boat.
It says tho shall not kill/murder, does that mean animals too?
You can make the bible say anything if you want it to. Its all based on interpretation and rules of the time.
People are saying it's not in the bible, IT IS.
The misinterpretation comes from latin into modern english.
The bible also says to follow the laws of the land and these things are illegal. That is why people don't do this.
Well, I'll answer the ';more important'; question first, as it is the most relevant...
2) why do people say the believe everything the bible says, and not do these things? Doesn't that seem a little hypocritical?
No, it's not hypocritical. Why? Because people who believe *everything* that the bible says actually DO believe *everything* the bible says. Now, if we take the regulations of which you are speaking out of the context of the bible, it's easy to understand why you think it hypocritical. However, the bible *itself* tells us why we Christians no longer follow these regulations
The regulations you mention are all part of Mosaic Law. Acts 15 makes it *very* clear that gentile Christians are only required to follow 4 specific regulations of the Mosaic Law. Therefore, *if* you believe **everything** in the bible, you believe that these regulations do NOT need to be followed, and that it is *wrong* for Christians to demand that they MUST be followed by other Christians!
There's even more to it, though...
The Mosaic Law is part of the Mosaic Covenant. Without going into detail, the Mosaic Covenant is a contract between God and the Jews - one that each religious Jew chooses to enter into voluntarily. The Mosaic Covenant is very specific in instructing the Jews that *they* are to abide by the regulations (that is, the Mosaic Law) of the covenant. It specifically indicates that those who are *not* part of the Mosaic Covenant are *not* required to observe the regulations. In other words, the Jews were not ordered to travel the world killing Sabbath breakers and homosexuals wherever they found them. The Mosaic Covenant clearly indicates that the Mosaic Law was for the Jews only. The benefits of following the Mosaic Law likewise were only for the Jews (by religion, not by ethnicity, remember). Similarly, the consequences of failing to abide by the regulations of the Mosaic Covenant were only for the Jews.
IN SUMMARY, the bible tells us that the regulations that you mention are for the (religious) Jews only. The bible tells us specifically which 4 of those regulations are *required* of gentile Christians (Acts 15). Finally, the bible tells us that the rewards of abiding by the regulations of the Mosaic Law are only available to the Jews.
For anyone who believes *everything* in the bible, these regulations that you mention are wholly optional, and no promise of blessing from God is attached to following them UNLESS you are a Jew.
Jim, http://www.bible-reviews.com
It does not say anything it is only what you read. keep reading it and you will find what it is really saying. thats like reading a mechanics manual and saying'; it says to take this apart'; and you reply with ';it won't run if I take it apart'; don't be an idiot read the whole thing and gain understanding!
It's funny how a lot of people can overlook verses like these and say ';they don't apply anymore';, but want to cling to those two verses in Leviticus to condemn homosexuals. If these laws no longer apply, then NONE of them do. Christ said He was the fulfillment of the law. You are either living under the law, all the law, or you are not. I put my faith in Christ.
You do understand that the parts of the Bible you're referring to were the ';law of the land'; in ancient times? Times have changed, my friend. Not everything that was relevant for people living 4000 years ago is relevant to us today.
Because Christians can do what they like and still go to heaven, apparently, hatred, murder, intolerance, making judgement, all they have to do is go around saying I am saved and whoosh off they go to heaven. Adolf Hitler, all of em
Yes, I repent and do what I should do. I need to kill all pastors in churches, as they work on Sundays. Next, I should kill all workers who work in hospitals, nursing homes, and also those who drive taxi, buses, trains etc.
The Bible does not tell people to kill disobedient teenagers, etc. The Bible told Israel to do those things. And, the Bible did not tell Israelites to kill those who worked on a Sunday.
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Think about when the bible was written. People didn't know so well about the world back then. Unfortunately, some people still take the bible literally.
Biblegod wasn't very tolerant back then. Biblegod created brains but hates when people use them, especially females. That is why Biblegod shut women out, religion is the mans realm.
well tbh the amount of people still believin gin the bible is gradually deteriating so i wudnt worry bout it at all :L, tbh iv neva even red it so i duna if it sayz that
xXx Matt xXx
people are primitive
(those rules came from a culture about 4000 years ago)
silly silly fundies
Because the bible is evil.
/facepalm
-gives anon a band-aid-
you are talking about Israel 1000's of years before Jesus.. not hos teaching which was love and forgive. but more important the Sabbath was Saturday and still is for the Jews
it says that?
*thump-thump-thump-thump*
Do you know what the sound of that is?
Thats me breaking my keyboard with my face.
Um i think your mis qouiting the bible. It doesn't say to kill them it just says that their ways are wrong and that God doesn't like that. god still loves them just not their ways. And I agree with you about people who say stuff about the bible but not do any of them. I know some people like that and I dont understand it. i think it's being kind of fake.
when does it say to kill them? even if it did, those were some of the very very old laws.
you CANNOT understand the old testament without reading the new.
it doesnt....big talk with NO references....
SEE ten commandments....dont murder anyone
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